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India: railway services, incidents and rules (merged posts)
As at 23rd January 2025 04:02 GMT
 
India: Eleven killed after passengers fleeing rumours of fire were hit by train
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:21, 22nd January 2025
 
From the BBC:



At least 11 people have been killed and five injured after they fled rumours of a fire on board their train in India, only to be hit by another train.

Railway officials said the passengers got down from the Mumbai-bound train in western Maharashtra state after someone pulled the emergency cord, causing it to stop. They were hit by a train on an adjacent track. It was not immediately clear whether there had actually been a fire.

India has launched a $30m (£24bn) programme to modernise its railways in recent years but this has been marred by a series of accidents, including a major three-train crash in 2023 in the state of Odisha which left nearly 300 people dead.

Maharashtra Chief Minister Devendra Fadnavis said in a post on X that he was "deeply saddened by the tragic loss of lives" during the incident near Pachora in Jalgaon district, about 400km from Mumbai, India's financial capital.  He said eight ambulances had been dispatched and hospitals were on standby.

The crash will be seen as a setback for Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who has called for modernisation of the railways to boost the economy and connectivity.

There are plans to boost spending on the programme in next month's budget, Reuters news agency reports.



Re: Runaway driverless train in India travels 40 miles.
Posted by broadgage at 02:25, 29th February 2024
 
Presumably they do not have AWS or TPWS, nor any similar equipment that would apply the brakes under such circumstances.

Re: Runaway driverless train in India travels 40 miles.
Posted by Witham Bobby at 10:26, 27th February 2024
 
Thankfully, it seems that no one was hurt.

https://news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/india-runaway-train-travels-40-miles-without-a-driver-13081349?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17089693207508&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fstory%2Findia-runaway-train-travels-40-miles-without-a-driver-13081349

Edit to correct thread title.

Whoops!

4-5-5 bells, and Form 1s to the driver and assistant. 

Such a relief that this did not end badly

Runaway driverless train in India travels 40 miles.
Posted by johnneyw at 19:38, 26th February 2024
 
Thankfully, it seems that no one was hurt.

https://news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/india-runaway-train-travels-40-miles-without-a-driver-13081349?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17089693207508&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fstory%2Findia-runaway-train-travels-40-miles-without-a-driver-13081349

Edit to correct thread title.

Re: "Dozens dead" in Indian train crash.
Posted by grahame at 19:41, 4th June 2023
 

KS Anand CPRO of SE Railway (India) has said that the train was signalled off the main line in to the goods/platform (yes they still call it goods) loop, already occupied. The second (up) express struck by the wreckage.

Shades of Harrow.

All sort of shades.  I was looking at Quintinshill too ... but these are multiple train collisions where the sheer numbers of people are as high. If the report is correct, it's comparison is perhaps with Wetheral See Wikipedia Report

At about 4pm on Saturday 3 December 1836, a train was travelling westwards towards Carlisle, drawn by the locomotive SAMSON, with 26 passengers aboard plus a heavy load of goods. About half a mile before the siding the driver shut the locomotive regulator and the train descended the gradient. On reaching a bridge just before the siding, the train driver saw a man upon the line and signalled to him to get out of the way. The driver then saw that the points were set for the siding rather than the main line. He set the locomotive into reverse and he and the fireman leaped off. Because of the downward gradient the train carried on its way unchecked.

Re: "Dozens dead" in Indian train crash.
Posted by onthecushions at 19:14, 4th June 2023
 

KS Anand CPRO of SE Railway (India) has said that the train was signalled off the main line in to the goods/platform (yes they still call it goods) loop, already occupied. The second (up) express struck by the wreckage.

Shades of Harrow.

There's also talk of recent signalling work (Clapham?).

The coaches not totally destroyed look to have performed well.

Sad to see such kind, gentle people hurt.

OTC

Re: "Dozens dead" in Indian train crash.
Posted by ChrisB at 14:46, 3rd June 2023
 
Amended to "at least 260" & another page refers to 261. Tragic

Re: "Dozens dead" in Indian train crash.
Posted by grahame at 07:27, 3rd June 2023
 
Later reports put the death toll at "over 200" Awful. Nearly 1,000 hurt.

And now - worse than any rail accident, ever, in the UK.  Sadly, not a record for India.

Updating at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-65793257

at least 288 people are now known to have been killed and 850 injured in a multiple train collision in India's eastern Odisha state, officials say.

Re: "Dozens dead" in Indian train crash.
Posted by broadgage at 01:25, 3rd June 2023
 
Later reports put the death toll at "over 200" Awful. Nearly 1,000 hurt.

Re: "Dozens dead" in Indian train crash.
Posted by JayMac at 22:09, 2nd June 2023
 
Death toll now risen to 'more than' 120.

Updated news item from BBC:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-65793257

India - railway incidents (merged posts)
Posted by broadgage at 18:36, 2nd June 2023
 
Early reports state as many as 50 lives lost, and several hundred injured.
It appears that several vehicles of a passenger train derailed, and that the derailed coaches were foul of the opposite line, and that a freight train then ran into them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-65793257

These are early reports and therefore liable to later revision and/or correction.

India - railway incidents and rules (merged posts)
Posted by grahame at 22:21, 8th March 2020
 
Very interesting to compare how things are done in India - ranging from their "delay repay" scheme to "can I take my parrot on the train"

https://blog.railyatri.in/8-indian-railways-rules-you-never-knew-about/

Example ... On marking up product prices when selling them at stations ...
The Railways Act of 1989 clearly states that the IRCTC authorized food vendors selling packed food items or water bottles cannot sell their goods over the MRP. Any vendor if caught in the act, would be punished with a hefty fine and may have the license cancelled. Railways have a toll free number of 1800111321  to register complains in this regard.
... I do recall some companies in trouble for marking up in hospital shops, and station catering often feels more expensive than outside the station.


Re: Indian railway accident, november 2019
Posted by IndustryInsider at 13:35, 13th November 2019
 
The way the passengers leapt out of the wrecked train and ran across the tracks, apparently without checking for the approach of other trains is a bit hair raising

That's what happens when people panic!  Sadly the Maidenhead HST fire back in the 1990s saw someone killed in similar circumstances running across the tracks.

Re: Indian railway accident, november 2019
Posted by Witham Bobby at 10:16, 13th November 2019
 
The way the passengers leapt out of the wrecked train and ran across the tracks, apparently without checking for the approach of other trains is a bit hair raising

Re: Indian railway accident, november 2019
Posted by IndustryInsider at 19:47, 12th November 2019
 
Definitely a collision.

Re: Indian railway accident, november 2019
Posted by Bmblbzzz at 19:39, 12th November 2019
 
Looks like a head on collision at points to me. Lucky it was low speed.

India - railway incidents and rules (merged posts)
Posted by broadgage at 18:42, 12th November 2019
 
Reported as a collision, but the video appears to show only one train.

It looks to me as though the second vehicle de-rails, but stays more or less upright and in line. The rapid deceleration then leads to other vehicles derailing. One vehicle that is presumably still on the track crumples as it strikes a nearly stopped vehicle.

Early reports suggest no loss of life nor serious injuries.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-india-50386665/india-train-collision-lucky-escape-for-passengers-in-hyderabad

Re: "scores killed by train", India.
Posted by grahame at 07:11, 21st October 2018
 
Not sure I would consider Metro's headline in good taste

Indian town picks up pieces after speeding train kills 60 people watching fireworks

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/20/indian-town-picks-up-pieces-after-speeding-train-kills-60-people-watching-fireworks-8058575/

especially when the "more" includes

Police have said that many of the victims were dismembered beyond recognition, and it will take several days to identify the dead.

I suspect that we are only being shown very limited pictures because of the brutal nature of the horror that's likely to have been at the scene.

Don't play with trains ...

India - railway incidents and rules (merged posts)
Posted by broadgage at 17:57, 19th October 2018
 
Very sad, but also entirely foreseeable I am afraid.
A large crowd for a religious festival gathered on a railway line and were killed by a train.

To gather on the line was unwise, but then to set of fireworks, the noise of which prevented the approach of the train from being heard, was foolhardy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-45913793

Re: India's first all-women railway station in Mumbai
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 04:12, 13th January 2018
 
MUMBAI: The first all-women station in India, Matunga on Central Railway (CR), manned by a staff of 41 women, has entered the Limca Book of Records, an official spokesperson said on Monday....

Oh, the irony ... 


Re: India's first all-women railway station in Mumbai
Posted by Bmblbzzz at 09:31, 11th January 2018
 
Limca, in case anyone was wondering, is a soft drink. It is not the home of Paddington's Great Aunt!

India - railway incidents and rules (merged posts)
Posted by grahame at 07:07, 11th January 2018
 
From The Economic Times

MUMBAI: The first all-women station in India, Matunga on Central Railway (CR), manned by a staff of 41 women, has entered the Limca Book of Records, an official spokesperson said on Monday.

The unique initiative was taken by CR General Manager D.K. Sharma in July 2017 with the aim of empowering women, said CR spokesperson Sunil Udasi.

Accordingly, women staffers were posted across all departments, like 17 ladies for operations and commercial, six Railway Protection Force, eight for ticket checking, two announcers and two conservancy staffers, and five point persons, totalling 41, under the charge of Station Manager Mamta Kulkarni.

Incidentally, Kulkarni holds the distinction of becoming the first woman assistant station manager to be recruited on the CR's Mumbai Division in 1992.

Now, she and her all women staff handle the overall operations of the busy Matunga station with positive and encouraging results, said Udasi.


India - railway incidents and rules (merged posts)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:20, 12th September 2015
 
From the BBC:

British tourists killed as India train derails

Two British tourists were killed and a number of others left injured after a train derailed in northern India.

The chartered four-carriage train was carrying a group of 37 Britons on the picturesque Kalka to Shimla mountain railway line, which is a Unesco world heritage site and tourist attraction.

Two carriages derailed after leaving Kalka railway station at 13:20 local time, a rail official told the BBC.

Local police said the two Britons who died were both women in their 60s.

The 36 passengers and a tour manager were on day three of a 13-day trip organised by York-based company Great Rail Journeys, which takes about 2,500 people to India annually.

Chief executive Peter Liney said: "Tragically, we can confirm that two passengers died in the accident. We are working with Foreign and Commonwealth Office to assist their relatives in travelling to India as soon as possible."

He said a number of others were injured. Two passengers and the tour manager would stay in hospital overnight, but he added that their injuries were not believed to be life threatening. All other passengers had been taken to a hotel.

The train had been rounding a curve when the coaches derailed, Neeraj Sharma, a railway official, told the AP news agency.

One passenger, Peter Lloyd, 69, from Ormskirk, Lancashire, was with his wife in a carriage when the train derailed. "The journey had just got going and was about 3km along," he told the BBC. "It went around a really sharp left bend, going too fast. I got thrown across the carriage... when the derailment happened. There was no panic, but stunned silence until we realised how bad things were. We were stuck in a wooded area for many hours. A lady had fallen out of the door to the grass embankment. Our tour guide was in a bad way. We are now safe in a hotel in Chandigarh [nearby city]. We are still awaiting contact from Great Rail Journeys. I'm very disappointed. The locals were fantastic including the local guide Raj, who was on the train. I am still in shock but happy to be alive."

Dinesh Kumar, divisional railway manager of Northern Railways, told the Times of India the cause of the incident was not immediately clear and an inquiry had been ordered.

The 96km narrow-gauge Kalka-Shimla Railway, often called the toy train line, was opened in 1903 to connect Shimla, the summer capital of British India, with the northern plains.
The railway climbs more than 4,000ft through the Himalayan foothills, and is famous for its many bridges, tunnels and panoramic views.

Re: India express train in Bihar kills people crossing track
Posted by broadgage at 12:34, 21st August 2013
 
Another report elswhere stated that the driver had been killed by the mob.
It does sound like mass trespass, when the risks should have been clear to all.
Such accidents are regretably common in India.

India - railway incidents and rules (merged posts)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:27, 19th August 2013
 
From the BBC:

At least 37 people have died after being hit by an express train while crossing the tracks at a remote train station in the Indian state of Bihar, local officials say.

The passengers, mostly Hindu pilgrims, had just alighted from a local train at Dhamara Ghat station and were on their way to a temple in Saharsa district.

An angry crowd is said to have beaten the driver and set two coaches on fire.

Rescue operations are under way and police reinforcements have been sent.

Senior state police officer SK Bhardwaj said it was difficult to say how many people had died as many bodies had been dismembered.

The incident took place at 08:40 India time [03:10GMT]. The pilgrims were hit by the Rajya Rani Express travelling on the opposite track.

Railway officials said the express train was travelling at high speed as it was not expected to stop at Dhamara Ghat station.

But after the accident, it stopped a few hundred metres away. An angry mob then pulled out the driver and severely assaulted him.

More police have been sent to the area but the region is extremely remote and inaccessible by road.

Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar has expressed grief over the incident and ordered district officials to the scene.

India's state-owned railway network is vast - it operates 9,000 passenger trains and carries some 18 million passengers every day.

A government-appointed safety panel in its report last year said about 15,000 people were killed each year crossing train tracks in what officials describe as "unlawful trespassing".

Re: Crossing rail tracks in India kills 15,000 each year
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:40, 17th April 2012
 
From the Telegraph:

Indian rail bosses order train drivers to clear bodies off tracks

Railway bosses in India have ordered train drivers to clear thousands of bodies found on its tracks every year because they causing serious delays.

An estimated 6,000 bodies are found on India's vital rail tracks every year, and 12 are found in every day on Mumbai's celebrated commuter lines alone.

Most of them are believed to be passengers who have fallen from overcrowded trains or local residents taking shortcuts across the tracks. Officials believe several thousand bodies are dumped on railway tracks by relatives seeking compensation.

Railway managers are now concerned at delays caused because the bodies are left on the tracks for so long.

They have issued new rules for train drivers and their guards to load the bodies onto brake carriages and deliver them to the next station, the Hindustan Times reported.

The new rules however could bring train drivers into conflict with the police and amount to tampering with a crime scene.

"Removal of dead bodies from the tracks by guards and drivers will amount to removal of primary evidence from the site of the crime," Sanjay Pandhi of the Indian Railways Loco Running Organisation told the paper.

Re: Crossing rail tracks in India kills 15,000 each year
Posted by jessicafoxton at 09:53, 23rd February 2012
 


Are you suprised??

Re: Crossing rail tracks in India kills 15,000 each year
Posted by JayMac at 00:03, 22nd February 2012
 
Was that report compiled by Bob Crow's Indian cousin?

Re: Crossing rail tracks in India kills 15,000 each year
Posted by Lee at 22:37, 21st February 2012
 
: 3 News New Zealand Report
The report called on the government to urgently replace all railroad crossings with bridges or overpasses at an estimated cost of 500 billion rupees (NZ$12 billion) over the next five years.

Bloody hell. That's seen as an impossible dream in this country, let alone India.

India: railway services, incidents and rules (merged posts)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:12, 21st February 2012
 
From 3 News New Zealand:

About 15,000 people die every year trying to cross the tracks of India's mammoth rail network, a "massacre" that a government committee said was being ignored by railway authorities.
The safety panel said new bridges and overpasses were urgently needed, but it noted previous recommendations to make the world's fourth largest railway system safer had been ignored. Its report noted that railway authorities were unwilling to view the deaths of people hit by trains while crossing the tracks as train accidents.
Most of the deaths occur at unmanned railroad crossings, said the report released over the weekend. About 6,000 people die on Mumbai's crowded suburban rail network alone.
Another 1,000 people die when they fall from crowded coaches, when trains collide or coaches derail, it said.
India's 64,000km of railway track cut through some of the most densely populated cities, flanked by shanty towns, in the nation of 1.2 billion people.
Railway experts say stopping pedestrians from crossing the tracks in congested areas would be virtually impossible.
"The situation is exceptionally dangerous in Mumbai where four or five tracks, or more, lie parallel and people living in slums on either side have no choice but to walk across the tracks," said I.M.S. Rana, a railway expert.
The High Level Safety Review Committee was set up by the government in September after a spate of train accidents. Around 20 million people in India travel by train each day.
The report called on the government to urgently replace all railroad crossings with bridges or overpasses at an estimated cost of 500 billion rupees (NZ$12 billion) over the next five years.
"No civilised society can accept such a massacre on their railway system," the report said, referring to the crossing deaths.
"Reluctance of the Indian railways to own up to the casualties, which do not fall under the purview of accidents, but are nevertheless accidents on account of trains, can by no means be ignored," the report said.
The panel was especially scathing about the large number of deaths in Mumbai and recommended that the "grim situation on Mumbai's suburban system has to be tackled on a war-footing".
"Trespassing occurs because of lack of barricading, fencing, lack of adequate number of pedestrian overbridges and lack of facilities such as sufficient number of platforms, escalators, elevators for the disabled apart from insufficient train services. These are the main reasons for the heavy human death toll," the report said.
The committee, headed by leading scientist Anil Kakodkar, blamed railway authorities for the "grim picture," saying there were lax safety standards and poor management. Kakodkar headed India's Department of Atomic Energy before he retired last year.
It said local managers are not given adequate power to make crucial decisions and that safety regulations are also breached because of severe manpower shortages.
The panel noted that in the past few decades several new passenger trains had been introduced without any attention paid to enhancing infrastructure required for additional trains, or the financial viability of some trains.
In India, railway ministers resort to populism by introducing new trains, often to gain votes in upcoming elections in their constituencies.
"Political leaders decide on such issues as introducing new trains or increasing train fares. Railway fares have not been increased for nearly a decade," said Rana.
The panel suggested a high-level task force be set up to implement its recommendations relating to safety and that a fee be added to every ticket to form a safety fund.

 
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